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Sign in with Twitter

Posted by Chris Latko On April - 20 - 2009

Recently Twitter updated their API Wiki with a new “Sign in with Twitter” page that explains OAuth in more detail and provides several “Sign in” buttons. This created a big buzz with ReadWriteWeb, TechCrunch, Mashable, and others all calling it a new entrant in the portable ID sector (OpenID, Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect, etc.). I called BS on this as I saw the authors were premature in their predictions (plus all commenters on these stories).

One author, whom I highly respect, contacted me directly asking what my take on the story was. Here is my response (with slight modifications):

Not sure of your technical level, but I’m going to breeze through this.

There are two fundamental open source credential mechanisms – OpenID and OAuth. Most “single sign on” is based on OpenID or a variant (both Google and Facebook are embracing and extending here). The problem with OpenID is that it is http based and actually requires you to visit the issuing site to supply your credentials. This won’t work for every case, such as mobile apps or basically any non-web app. This is what I refer to as the OpenID dilemma.

With OAuth, the login process is decoupled further. So if you are on a mobile app and attempt to sign in with twitter, the app will tell you to visit twitter.com to complete the process. You visit twitter.com and are presented with a dialogue saying “so and so app is requesting authorization”. At that point you approve or deny. Once approved, the mobile app forever more has the ability to access your twitter account. As far as I know, the first large adopter of this is Flickr. It is sort of ironic that Twitter actually began the OAuth efforts years ago.

In the twitter API, the OAuth calls have been available ever since I started developing my own twitter tools. So I always wondered why OAuth was never forced on third party developers (I think this was just a smart business decision). So now we have thousands of third party twitter apps that request your username/password for use and you have no idea how reliable the apps are or the people behind them.

In an effort to increase OAuth usage, twitter added the “sign in with twitter” buttons (and also gave the OAuth calls more prominent placement on the main API page). There really isn’t anything new here except a few graphics and twitter providing a little more documentation on OAuth. You can see an example of how it actually works at twittermass.com.

So the bottom line is OpenID is used more often as a “single sign on” and OAuth is used as a security measure for API calls. This doesn’t mean OAuth CAN’T be used as for “single sign on”, but I highly doubt that it will.

Twitter is being extremely cautious with their model right now so throwing down the gauntlet of a new “single sign on” really doesn’t make sense. I have no inside information, so I could be totally wrong here.

If you have any insights on this, I would love to hear them.

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7 Responses to “Sign in with Twitter”

  1. clatko says:

    Published a new blog post: Sign in with Twitter @ http://bit.ly/6ETlc

    This comment was originally posted on Twitter

  2. gc says:

    Good post!

    I do agree with you on the comment regarding the reliability of some if not most third party apps and the people behind them. This is where establishing credibility and trust with your user base comes in.

    IMO, I don’t think twitter is aiming at SSO like openID is. Personally, I plan to use OAuth simply because I plan to only target twitter users (6 or 7 millions, or more…)! My goal is simply to not obligate users to have to register (yet again) for another service if it’s related to something they already use daily, and I think OAuth is good for that.

  3. Adnan says:

    I have seen many mobile applications which support “Sign in with Twitter”.
    For example: Twitter Mobile
    (http://www.twittermobile.co.uk/index.php)

    If you the screenshots, it shows that they support Sign in with Twitter without opening browser.

    Please have a look at it.

  4. Chris Latko says:

    I've seen more and more of the "Sign on with Twitter" to allow for simple functionality on sites such as commenting on Disqus. I was wrong about the outcome of OAuth. But to date I've seen it used more to authenticate apps than as a single sign-on approach.

  5. Adnan says:

    I am interested to know how to implement this authentication process using "Sign in with Twitter"

  6. Chris Latko says:

    You can get more info on implementation at http://apiwiki.twitter.com/OAuth-FAQ.

  7. Adnan says:

    I already have read FAQs, but couldn't find anything specific to mobile/desktop applications. I know how to implement "Sign in with Twitter" for web applications but I need to know how to do this in mobile application without opening the browser.

    Thanks

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