i filed a bug report to the chromium community, will keep track of new versions, but i’m back to your trusty-old(!?)-light-fast and stable camino

so, since you appreciate the feedback, and since i am always checking your domain out (which like i said many times has drastically improved my web experience, thank you very much!), my browser testing during my day to day life now includes the chromium builds to which you provided a link… I was after chromium a while back, but thought it was too early and the releases were too unstable… Not the case anymore, it’s my 3rd day running it with absolutely no problems…

so here goes:

1) i tested 3 different builds, oddly enough, latest doesn’t mean fastest, probably because there are just too many hands on it now

2) loading times for simple text only pages, such as yours, are similar between camino and chromium;

3) loading times for media-intensive content is scary fast with chromium, it screams past camino and then some…

so, besides having to test every different build, which can be annoying, chromium is on average faster than your already fast camino, and more stable with flash content, with better performance/behavior across the board when it comes to handling media and scripting…

all the above, plus dragging out tabs to make new windows, duplicating tabs, google auto-complete on the location bar and the ctrl-tab shortcuts firefox style got me pretty much sold here, i’m really enjoying chromium for now

the downside is the extra-lame bookmark management, somehow bookmark management is either not included with chromium builds or i am doing something terribly wrong, because i see the context menu item but cannot click it, so it’s pretty much unmanageable, unless you export your camino bookmarks, load them in safari, then import safari’s bookmark structure to chromium and deal only with the simplest changes via the star button, which also lets you delete bookmarks you already have, but all in all it’s a pretty stupid process…

anyway, thanks a lot, keep up the good work, and i’am waiting for your new builds (maybe you’ll do a chromium one soon?)! by the way, i’m waiting a while to upgrade to snow leopard because i’ve got a lot of pro audio software and hardware running here and i dont really want to mess up the balance, so i couldn’t test any of your firefox builds after 3.5.2, even when it’s not explicitly written “snow leopard only” there, none of the others work here…

so, all the best man, rgds!

Camino no longer builds for me. I finally figured out why, but that was after I already wasted an afternoon. Anyway, I can barely get any optimization out of it as they've done a great job of doing this already. I'll try again this weekend.

You should do another Camino.

I really like Camino, except for the Color Management problem.

I have been using your version of Minefield {3.6a2pre} for this reason & as it runs well. Yet, if you could make it an option to reopen all the pages {tabs}, rather than it doing so automatically, that would be appreciated.

Both very quick & well~running!

Thanks,
Robert

I tested your 2.1 Alpha and was pretty amazed at how fast it worked here even on my CoreDuo Mac Mini.

Because of occasionally crashs on sites I visit regularly I had to go back to the official 2.0 beta4 which doesn't crash.

I can run Camino for *weeks* on my machine with no problems. There is no way to do this in any other browser I've tried. My main issues are with debugging, but the console is good enough for most cases. If I really need to dive in, I open up Shiretoko and use Firebug.

I can see the frustrations with the search auto-complete. I think this would be an easier thing for me to take on (code-wise) than implementing keyboard shortcuts. When I get the chance, I'm going to do another build with Clang, plus see if I can add the search auto-complete.

Still going strong with your camino

As you told me to, i inspected the about:config and googled around for ways to change keyboard shortcuts etc… it turns out that somehow (i don't know why…) you cannot add ctrl-tab shortcuts through os-x (which was the direct way of doing so), so i guess that only browsers that already have this coded in will get it…

i liked it this way (as in firefox) because it enabled me to switch tabs with the left hand while still keeping the right hand on the trackpad or mouse, and it seems that this shortcut will only come our way if either you or some other well meaning programmer decide to mod-it in…

the other thing that bugs the hell out of me in camino is that there is no auto-complete for the web-search input field, whereas firefox even takes it a step forward and does a mini-search to auto-complete what you might actually search for… never noticed how good that was until i was actually forced to choose between performance or those small improvements that you really take for granted… and i miss it a lot, it feels like you are blindly searching for stuff in camino, and the ideas only show up a step later after you press return…

all in all, i've done a lot of comparing between your shiretoko 3.5.2, safari 4.0.3 and your camino 2.1, and i can say that:

shiretoko is somewhat slower than both, but better at handling flash and stuff like this, and it has all the firefox accessories;

safari is sometimes faster than both (not always), but so cpu and memory hungry that after a few tabs are opened it's just a waste of resources, plus it really becomes unstable as you pointed out;

camino is most of the time on par with safari (performance-wise), a little worse with flash content, but so much better when you consider the tiny footprint and the stability even with lots of tabs and windows open, so it is the clear winner for me here (ah, if only it had those small convenient additions to it)…

again, thanks a lot for the effort, your work has made my web experience really a lot better, and at the moment i don't think there is a better all-round browser out there…

rgds bro

My primary browser is now Camino, has been for the past couple months actually. Maybe there is something in about:config that will allow you to edit keyboard shortcuts. I'm not that familiar with this area of the code so I couldn't really help you out there.

The Camino engine is the same as the Firefox engine. Actually this version of Camino is one release behind, and it also does not have TraceMonkey support. But there are so many other optimizations, it feels as fast or faster than any other browser.

I'll probably do another compile in the next week or so.